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CFR week ten top teams list

Week Ten Top Teams List (11/07/2005):

  1. USC-Remember when they kept falling behind early in games?  The reverse is happening now.  Every season under coach Carroll, USC has been able to improve upon themselves as the season rolled along.  Rough final schedule stretch will get them ready for a big bowl game.
  2. Texas-On Monday morning mailed thank you cards to Miami.  "The Narrative" looks prophetic right about now.  Right now their schedule looks like Ohio State and the 11 nobodies.  They're still really good, schedule be damned.
  3. Notre Dame-The Irish remind me of the 2002 USC team; two early losses, then realized they're great, and finished exceedingly strong.
  4. Georgia-The quarterback's back.  Let's see how they weather their remaining schedule.
  5. Miami-A very shaky fifth here.  Offense needs help, but took advantage of most of their opportunities and forced Marcus Vick into a Zabransky-like performance.
  6. Virginia Tech-Not as bad as they played.  Will probably fall after confidence was shaken and season ruined.  That's how most CFB teams respond to similar predicaments, at least.
  7. Penn State-Defense looks like it's for real, at least against opponents who know how to run.  Better than expected on offense, find ways to score.


  • California-Tough loss in overtime on the road in bad weather at a crazy venue.  Joe Ayoob's on-the-job training hasn't been so smooth.


  • Alabama-They keep winning, but they're leaving too much to chance.
  • Ohio State-Really catching stride.  Ted Ginn has been unleashed.
  • Louisville-Quietly winning.
  • UCLA-Probably on their way off the list after getting shelled.  Waiting to see how they respond.  Still have a fine offense.
  • Oregon-Beat a pretty good team with their backup quarterback.  Only loss is to USC. 

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I honestly think Oregon could beat UGA.
November 7, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterStephen Kim
Stirring the pot ;o)...
November 7, 2005 | Registered CommenterCFR
Ginn has been unleashed . . . by Ohio State standards. I still wonder what he could have done offensively this season on a competent offensive team (or even on defense if he played for a good offensive team that only needed him on that side of the ball for a big play here or there).
November 7, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterGinnFan
CFR, I'm beginning to have a little faith in you man. Not a bad list. ND not really a top 5 team. VT and Miami would crush them and, I believe that Penn State, Georgia, and Oregon would beat them on a neutral field.

Stephen Kim, would love to see a match-up with Oregon and Georgia. I guess all we can do is say what we think because they're probably not going to get matched up anytime soon.
November 8, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterDawgy1
I think Oregon's definitely a top 10 team right now. If they win out, I think they have an excellent chance at an at-large BCS slot.

At full strength for both teams and on a neutral field, I'd say it's very close, possibly would turn entirely on who scores first and how quickly. As the teams are now, with Shockley back and Clemens out, I'd take Georgia. But I agree that Oregon _could_ beat Georgia with the teams as is.

CFR: No LSU? Their inconsistency bothers me, but they've still only lost one game (in OT) and they have as much raw talent as anyone outside of USC.
November 8, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterLD

Talent isn't everything. For years I rated teams just by talent, and realized it's just a heavily flawed way to look at things.

No doubt LSU has talent, but offensively and defensively they're a mess. That hasn't changed at any point this season. Plus, they've got a pretty average coach.

Its a testament to their schedule that they have just one loss right now.
November 8, 2005 | Registered CommenterCFR
Not to be picky, but if you consider LSU's defense to be a mess, what do you consider to be good?

Here are LSU's national rankings:

Scoring Defense: 6th
Total Defense: 12th
Pass Defense: 23rd
Rush Defense: 16th

I probably don't need to point out to you that not a single Pac-10 team ranks ahead of them in any of those categories.

On offense they're still decent (we're not talking Tennessee here):

Scoring Offense: 31st
Total Offense: 43rd
Pass Offense: 33rd
Rush Offense: 46th

Miami ranks behind them in every single offensive category.

And as for Strength of Schedule, here are the numbers and comparisons to teams you've ranked ahead:

GBE rankings: LSU is 61st. Ahead of Georgia, Louisville, USC, Alabama and UCLA

Colley Ratings: LSU is 60th. Immediately behind USC (59th), ahead of Georgia, Louisville, Alabama, UCLA.

Massey: LSU is 47th. Ahead of Georgia, Louisville, UCLA, Alabama.

Their schedule, while not the toughest in the country, is at least comparable to other teams you've listed. Plus, they've beaten three teams you've listed.

I'll admit they're not the most consistent team, and they could probably be making use of their talent more. I concede the coaching issues. But we're talking about a team that is still 7-1 and if not for that collapse against UT (and also remember that that game was played 48 hours after a hurricane came through) they might be right there with Texas. I'd at least consider them as much as, say, Louisville.

And speaking of Louisville, remember that there's a very good chance they won't finish better than third place in the terrible Big East. If they're so good, why not consider the team that beat them and hasn't lost to anyone outside your top 6, West Virginia? I think Louisville's a paper tiger. Nice offense, but can't win games on the other side of the ball. Their "best" (I'd go so far as to say their only "decent") win was UNC, maybe Oregon State.
November 9, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterLD
"Beaten three teams you've listed..."

Should have "at some point during the year" after. I'm talking about Florida, Arizona State and Auburn.
November 9, 2005 | Unregistered CommenterLD

You make fair arguments, but you're using NCAA tournament logic, basically presenting a team's resume, various schedule rankings and ratings and best wins.

The same case can be made for every other team out there, in one form or another.

It's not like LSU's far off my list, they're just not ON it.

Look, LSU's defensive rankings say one thing to me, watching them play another. Watching how their coach manages a game and game situations, and what kind of ball he's playing. Their schedule has been such, combined with their overall talent, that they've gotten away with what they're doing. Some points are earned with me for doing so, because winning is winning. But, a lot of the time I'm watching them I can't help but feel they're your run of the mill talented and erratic football team.

They're not really great, despite the talent to be great, which means structurally they're a mess. Sometimes teams are a little fortunate and have nice records despite a really bad framework (LSU). Sometimes good teams have bad records despite great frameworks (California). My job is to balance these things out and determine who is best given all this information.

I admire your effort and there are still plenty of nice things to say for LSU's season, but at this time, having watched them, and everyone else quite a bit, looked at the numbers, etc. they're not on my list.

Maybe I'm wrong, but there will be plenty of time to examine that, starting now and continuing through posterity.
November 9, 2005 | Registered CommenterCFR

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