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Dec132007

Yet Another Reason A Playoff Is Just Stupid

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Ugh.

Lose to Stanford and Oregon?  No soup for you, at least in my book.

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Please keep in mind that's a fan-voted construction. As in, random people on the Internet voted for who they thought was the best. As in, it's a giant popularity contest, and has no bearing on reality.

If you want something grounded in reality, try WhatIfSports.com's playoff sim, and see if you agree with it: http://www.whatifsports.com/decmadness/bracket.asp?r=1

Please don't try to make a stupid popularity contest into some kind of case against a playoff. All this says is, people are dumb in large groups.
December 16, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterGatorDave
The best teams did not come together in a playoff at the end of the year and square off against each other. Sadly, College Football fans are missing THOSE games. So no, it IS NOT determined on the field.

Or did you miss the fact that opinion polls still decide the National Champion in College Football, instead of entry into a tournament?
December 16, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTom Blogical
Further, the only thing determined on the field thus far are Conference Champions. Unless these Conference Champions play each other in a tournament, and get away from biased opinion polls, College Football will always have a Mythical National Champion. As a matter of fact, the BCS is a step closer to a playoff, and the next step is being discussed already--a Plus One system.

This ridiculous idea/argument that the regular season is somehow "the playoff" is just idiotic--unless you limit the scope to the regular season deciding the champion of individual conferences. As I said, if College Football has it right, then let's junk every playoff in existence for every other sport and follow College Football's current design. That would be an absolute disaster, and you know it.

Due to the way all the contracts are constructed, Delaney and the PAC 10 will invariably shoot it down, but the fact that CFB moved to the BCS, has tweaked the BCS every year since inception, and is discussing the Plus One system proves how stupid the organizers of CFB think the current (and old) system is.

A playoff between Conference Champions will eventually come, and I hope it gets here sooner rather than later. For now, we have to deal with the garbage currently in place.
December 16, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterTom Blogical
CFR, please explain what was decided on the field during the regular season? We have probably 6 teams who can claim to be the best. We get two of them chosen by a very flawed system.

What this does is exactly what you say you don't want and, that is to render the regular season meaningless.

You have cried and cried on this pitiful blog about scheduling over the years. What is going to happen with this system is exactly what happened with Ohio State, Kansas, Hawaii, etc. Schedule cupcakes except for your conference games, go undefeated with a strength of schedule bordering 100 and play for the MNC.

This is what renders the regular season meaningless.

December 17, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterDawgy
All I know is that I found a website to play paper football. It's so old school, but it's fun. www.thumpbowl.com Check it out. Takes you back.
December 19, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterLO
I lost track of this site. I see CFR's coalition of the anti-playoff brigade has become larger. Personally, I'm a huge playoff proponent and I cannot begin to relate to someone that would not rather see 16 teams competing in playoff rather than one playoff game and 31 consolation games just so a three-loss team doesn't get the chance to win four straight playoff games with three of those likely on the road. That said, if people like the sudden death nature of the regular season, so be it. But don't tell me this format determines college football's champion on the field when no one controls their destiny and opinions decide the winners. Finally, competition is about determining a winner. It is not about the best teams.
December 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCJH
I lost track of this site. I see CFR's coalition of the anti-playoff brigade has become larger. Personally, I'm a huge playoff proponent and I cannot begin to relate to someone that would not rather see 16 teams competing in playoff rather than one playoff game and 31 consolation games just so a three-loss team doesn't get the chance to win four straight playoff games with three of those likely on the road. That said, if people like the sudden death nature of the regular season, so be it. But don't tell me this format determines college football's champion on the field when no one controls their destiny and opinions decide the winners. Finally, competition is about determining a winner. It is not about the best teams.

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December 25, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterCJH
So fans of Division 1-AA, Division 2, and Division 3 football are stuck with flawed champions every year?Until there is a true championship tournament there will be the the same old system where the best any team can do is claim bragging rights. My favorite matchup in this year's scheme of anachronistic bowl games is the December 30 Independence Bowl, where the loser will end the season with a 6-7 record. This one ought to be renamed the Apathy Bowl. Wouldn't such a school with a regular-season record of 6-6 that got seeded last in a 32-team tourney feel better about its recruiting prospects next year by reaching the Elite 8 than by losing in a meaningless bowl game that probably won't even sell all its seats?

With a 32-team championship series, there could be continued 31 of the existing bowl sites. Trim the seedings to 24 teams and you could have the top 8 teams get a bye week in a 5-week series with the bottom 16 playing in the first week. This second setup would leave only 23 games, still plenty to guarantee that the best team is included.
December 27, 2007 | Unregistered CommenterBuildrich
Buildrich,

"So fans of Division 1-AA, Division 2, and Division 3 football are stuck with flawed champions every year?"

They're stuck with a flawed "championship", yes. I'm not here to tell any other sport how to do its business, so if its fans are satisfied with a playoff, so be it.

But I'm here as a fan of D-IA football and I think this game is best served not having a playoff. One size doesn't fit all in athletics, I don't get this urge to make D-IA college football just like everyone else. The game's different and appealing to a fan like me in large part because its postseason is different and creates a unique regular season experience unparalleled in all of sport.


Let the other divisions do it how they're going to do it, but their fans shouldn't place any demands on D-IA if that's not their game. I don't ask the other divisions to change their postseason format, it's none of my concern and I don't invest any energy into their game to where I can legitimately make demands.

I do put that energy into D-IA football coverage though, I feel I have a right to speak for the game as it currently stands.

I'm not thrilled with bowl expansion and having 6-6 teams play, but it beats a playoff I'll tell you that much.
December 27, 2007 | Registered CommenterCFR

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